I know this because of a press release posted on an obscure news portal, which also listed the hosts of the event (French ex-president Chirac, German ex-chancellor Schroeder, prince Hassan of Jordan, ex-president of Indonesia Wahid, and UNESCO), and included a statement issued by the participants, clearly aimed at Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's constant disputing of the Holocaust.
But the event gave Ceric the opportunity to make the preposterous claim that:
"Muslims and Jews have a joint experience of persecution and genocide in Europe: both were expelled from Spain (Endelus) in the fifteenth century, with the Sephardic Jews finding a safe haven in Sarajevo, which is best witnessed by the Sarajevo Holy Haggadah, and both suffered a genocide in the twentieth century, Jews from the Nazis and Bosnian Muslims from the Serbian aggressors."
The claim that what happened in Bosnia was a genocide absolutely qualifies as "diminishing the Holocaust." A savage ethnic conflict that killed two percent of the country's entire population (including combat casualties) compares to a campaign of mass murder conducted by the Nazis, how exactly? Oh, I forget, the death of "up to 8000" (the actual number is still a mystery!) Muslim fighters in Srebrenica is apparently a "genocide" on par with the Shoah!
There is also a hidden temptation for the Jews in Ceric's claim: Muslims will stop denying the Shoah if the Jews would agree that the Muslims were victims of genocide, too! Preposterous? I think so. But could it happen? Wouldn't be the first time the Jews bought into Muslim propaganda:
We outwitted three big Jewish organizations - B'Nai Brith Anti-Defamation League, the Jewish Committee, and the American Jewish Congress. We suggested to them to publish an advertisement in the New York Times and to organize demonstrations outside the U.N. This was a tremendous coup. When the Jewish organizations entered the game on the side of the (Muslim) Bosnians, we could promptly equate the Serbs with the Nazis in the public mind.- James Harff, executive for PR agency Ruder Finn, to French journalist Jacques Merlino, 1993 (source)
One reason this is particularly galling is that the Muslims of Bosnia took part in the Holocaust. During the war, Bosnia was part of the "Independent State of Croatia" (NDH), and Muslims were considered "Croats of Islamic faith." The Ustasha regime ruling the NDH seized the property of Bosnian Jews and sent most of them to death camps like Jasenovac. Many Muslims took part in this infernal endeavor, and were rewarded by the Jews' property. Others answered the call of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, and allied with Hitler.
Completing the travesty is that the Ustashas' principal target were the Serbs, of whom they killed hundreds of thousands! Yet the mass murder of Serbs isn't a "genocide," oh no - Srebrenica is!
The Sarajevo Haggadah, which Ceric mentions, had to be hidden during the war from the "tolerant" NDH authorities. Muslims claim they saved it from destruction. Croats say it was a Croat who did it. In any event, the book was saved. But what happened to the Jews?
Few remain in Bosnia today. Most have long ago emigrated to Israel, which Mustafa Ceric's "brothers" in Hamas and Hezbollah desire to destroy. Yet somehow, the fate of the Bosnian Jews and the Muslims' ties to the Nazis and the modern-day jihadists don't seem to matter to ex-politicians and UN bureaucrats. What they care about is being lectured by this "moderate" and "tolerant" mufti about the "joint experience of persecution", while he recycles vile propaganda about the "Serb genocide" and harangues against "Islamophobia."
We should rightly point a questioning finger at the organizers of this travesty for putting another brick into the wall of Eurabia. One could, and should, rightly condemn the Serbian officialdom, which has continued to ignore the genocide during WW2 even though the Communist regime that suppressed any inquiry into it has been gone for two decades now. None of that excuses Ceric for what he said, or what he's been doing for years - but it explains why he's been getting away with it.
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me," goes the saying that Emperor Bush once famously mangled. When it comes to Bosnia, the Jews have been fooled once already. Now Mustafa Ceric is trying to fool them again.
Christians are guilty indeed of tolerating the parasitic activities of Rothschilds for centuries now. I don't see any paradox in what you described. It is well-documented that these bankers financed Nazi genocide, just as Prescott Bush did, whose witless grandson you mentioned. Perhaps one may find it paradoxical at first glance that the "civilized world" is pursuing a policy practically identical to Hitler's in the Balkans. Then one realizes that it is not mere foolishness. What is necessary is to look at the origin of organizations representing the NWO. The Bilderberg Group, for example, was founded by prince Bernhardt of the Netherlands, a former SS officer. Not a single Secretary of NATO was appointed since 1960s before him first attending these secret meetings. I can highly recommend Daniel Estulin's best-seller "The True History of the Bilderberg Group" for more detailed information and documents.
Interesting. I'll have to check that out.
It is believed that the fate of Kosovo was decided during the 1996 Bilderberg meeting in Canada. Btw, Richard Holbrooke attends nearly every meeting.
Here is an overview:
Couldn't find your email address, so I apologize that this comment is not directly related to the post.
Just came across this: http://www.palluxo.com/2009/04/28/remembering-serbias-nazi-past-and-mass-murders-of-jews/#comment-17558
Why, oh why, would a website about Macs write such things? very strange.
I wrote a comment, but it never got past "moderation".
Thank you for your writing, (sivi soko, antiwar.com and here}. I heave learned a tremendous amount from you.
Ana, I've tracked that piece of revisionist drivel as well as another Muslim propaganda piece to Palluxo. I'm not sure whether they are being abused by a propagandist, or if they are hiding these propaganda tidbits amidst legitimate computer-related news. We'll find out soon.
Well, given that the propaganda was intentionally written and that it certainly did not end up in the Mac website by accident, somebody made the call to put it there. Kinda creepy .... very psi ops of them .... subtly infiltrate legitimate media, have their version enter peoples' consciousnesses, and so on .... sad really :( Something like that takes effort t though, and I have always been unable to fully explain why the Empire and such forces care so much about the balkans and public perception thereof.
Makes me fear that they are planning something again. We shall see indeed ....
thanks again for all your work. Aside from being incredibly informative, your sivi soko blog has been the only thing to motivate me so to read in cyrillic :) I came to NYC when I was 3, and must admit that while I can read in cyrillic, it has always been a bit slow for me. So thank you for increasing my serbian literacy :)
They are always planning something, and they plan long ahead. In the Balkans their plan is to drive out the remaining Serbs from Kosovo, encourage separatist movements in places like Vojvodina, and abolish the Dayton agreement completely in Bosnia. Of course, their bigger concern is the "Eurasian Balkans", to use Dr. Brzezinski's terminology. I would recommend his book "The Grand Chess Board" if you wonder what Obama's geo-strategy will be about.
I think by now it's a given that Washington has tried to use militant Islam as a weapon to dominate Eurasia; from Afghanistan in the late 1970s (Brzezinski himself confessed that Washington sponsored the mujahedin to provoke the Soviets) to Bosnia in the 1990s (as Brendan O'Neill pointed out last summer). The notion that Washington is trying to create some sort of "Turkosphere" - a zone of influence stretching from the Balkans to Central Asia, dominated by Turkey - as a kind of "moderate" Islamic ally is increasingly becoming self-evident. Of course, the trouble with this is that Turkey has its own agenda, and that Washington is running out of money for such projects. But we'll see.
Bosnian Mulims victims of genocide from the evil Serbs??
The mere fact that tens of thoudands Bosnian Muslims fought ALONGSIDE the Bosnian Serbs is proof once again that Mustafa is delusional and suffering from selective amnesia.
Tens of thousands of Bosnian Muslims fought ALONGSIDE the Bosnian Serbs against the fascist regime in Sarajevo.
Mustafa is delusional as always and needs to be called out on this nonsense.
Turkey expressed its support for Russia days after the war in Caucasus was over. They are starting to understand that Big Brother may become enthusiastic about "project Kurdistan" any minute now. I bet they are watching very closely what is happening in Pakistan. Precisely, how a long-time American ally who was allowed to obtain nuclear weapons seems to be undergoing the same treatment as Yugoslavia did (I was disappointed to read Srdja Trifkovic's endorsement for that plan last summer). Also, we may take note of who was appointed as US Af-Pak envoy.
Thank you Suvorov for the book recommendation. I have been meaning to read Brzezinski's book for some time, and guess I should finally get around to it :)
I have watched an interview with him in which he basically brags about provoking the soviets into war in Afghanistan. I find him very creepy - he is not some talking political head, but rather a very intelligent man who must know the ramifications and implications of what he is saying and admitting to.
It is clear militant islam is being used to destabilize and dilute Europe and its populations.
Yet why was this path of domination chosen? What is gained by the USA (or whomever the organizing powers are) through a through this path of empowering and spreading Islam?
Basically, what I am still trying to figure it is: to what end? Given that Brzezinski is well versed in history, how does he see all this ending? Is it their aim to destabilize all of Europe with muslim immigration, dilute all native populations, establish client regiems etc... all to achieve what? establish a centralized dictatorship (EU) and surround Russia with hostile unstable puppet regimes that host bases/missiles? .... how is any of this constructive towards any non-insane long term goal? What is the end game?
It does seem like Serbia is the only hold out in the balkans, and it seems that they are trying to surround her with NATO client states. Scary. While it does seem that America is running out of money, I believe they will fund their military until the end, and if need be, at the expense of all else.
Red Star, I've been thinking for three days now what to do with your post. It's not so much that I agree or disagree with what it says, but the fact that it should probably be a blog post of its own somewhere rather than a lengthy comment here.
The problem is that Zbig IS insane. And he is not interested in US national interests. He is a globalist, and those folks are opposed to national interests by definition. They want a one-world government of the financial elite. Remember that even though he is an important figure, he is after all only a servant to the Rockefeller family, just the way Henry Kissinger is. Brzezinski is the founder of the Trilateral Commission, and he attends every Bilderberg meeting, as well as the Council on Foreign Relations. Have you seen "The Obama Deception"? It may seem that they are exaggerating, but unfortunately they aren't really. Obamajugend does already exist and they want to expand their plan of taking away civil liberties. This Obama hype is very dangerous, but that precisely was their plan: to cover the NWO with a Kenyan face.
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